Am I to believe that nothing that was said to me was the truth? Why did people say these things to me? Were they lying? Did they just want me to do the work and finish the quilt? What about from the very beginning? Someone could have told me to stop and that I should step down. No, they waited until the quilt was done and mailed.
I included all the message unless it contained personal information or non-quilt chit chat. All messages are from PM's on Twilight Moms in response to me or initiated by another person.
Angie's a handful....may be even more than me. :rolf:
Edge-to
edge--gah?!, shannon
:rolf: :rolf: :rolf: I guess that answered our question earlier about free motion vs programmed quilting. Oh well, it will look nicer and be done faster than anything I could do at home.....
I can't believe her complaining about the size though! I'm guessing she's doing a Bella falling through sky progression (which I'm not liking the idea of) but still, when people fall/jump off a cliff, they fall close to the cliff edge.....it doesn't need to be wide! And Bella doesn't need to be big enough to have a face or anything. :pray: don't let her try to get a face on her! I'm not crazy about Melly putting faces on the Volturi, (and the cloaks look like nuns habits! :rolf: ) but I kept my mouth shut cuz she's already cut that out and she's a newbie, but Angie professes to be a pro.....
I'm still in a PMS mood, so couldn't hold back all my opinions! ;)
mama2cjmj, 8/14/09
In a perfect world I would like to have 14 x 9 but I know that won't work. The drawing I just did is 12x9 but I could cut it down to 12x7 with little problem. Any smaller than that, I don't know if I can get it all in there. I am doing it all neddle turned so I don't want it to look messy.
I hear you on the sashing, I like sashing to be equal, especially for the quilting side of it...nothing give me more headache than borders and sashing that is not straight...just my opinion. Are we doing the designed borders like in the dragonfly design???
Angie
jewah1976, 8/15/09
I read your post...and Iris' after you (she sounds unhappy). I don't want to be a problem for sure, I just want it to be great! Plus I think the standard sashing is needed. As long as it is atleast 12" high, I can do 9 or 7 inches wide....
Angie
jewah1976, 8/15/09
It will work out I am sure. I can see by the stuff you make that you put alot of thought into the process, that is key in quilting. When you don't think about the end result, things get funky...fast. Plus, since you are going to be the one responsible for making it all fit together, I think you are thinking that way now instead of later. Having more than one person peicing is always a challenge...it will work out, I have faith. :shy:
Let me know if you need anything from me.
Angie
jewah1976, 8/15/09
Shannon,
To be honest, I wasn't quite sure why Iris drafted things out at such irregular sizes (originally my sun was supposed to be 5x6 :confused: ). I think that she was just trying to be helpful because you often wish that your dad would help you draft things out. Using what Iris has drafted, I think we can adjust and make everything line up. Even though dragonfly quilt had many blocks of different sizes, I'm fairly certain the sashing and blocks all lined up.
Let's not let this get too stressful. I'm sorry we're all in the middle of a creative mess again :lol: . I liked your assessments of everyone's reactions -- especially Mel being confused :lol: .
Sending :hug: your way,E
lizziebug, 8/15/09
.......
As for running out of steam on the New Moon project, at soon as you start getting blocks you'll get your snap back and be right in there excited about it. You are my quilting hero. You always have such great ideas and you are easily the best quilter in the group. Believe me. I've seen everyone's work ;) .:hug: and have a great evening!E
lizziebug, 9/2/09
You are too kind! Your pep talk helped!!shannon
I'm glad it helped, and I hope you know I sincerely meant everything I said.
Sorry about having to run your kids all over the place. That is no fun :x .
I got the sashing and connector fabrics yesterday. I got them washed and will hopefully work with them today :D .
:hug: E
lizziebug, 9/4/09
I don't think quotes for every block. Just a few good ones.
E
lizziebug, 9/6/09
Are we going to do quotes? For every block...embroidered...?shannon
I thought it would be cool to have a quote for each block. (hence my list I started) Not sure if everyone else wants them, and not sure if that sashing fabric, which I LOVE, is too busy? And we'd need to keep the quotes fairly short unless they are in small font. So, I vote for yes, but either 1) we ask Jerri Lynn how small she can embroider and see if we can fit them in, 2) we ask Angie to quilt them in, which may not show up too well on that fabric depending on how she does it, 3) make your own printable fabric strips, print and set them or 4) could stamp them on with fabric paint, or bleach (probably too painstakingly slow). So as usual, I'm no real help! :oops:
mama2cjmj, 9/6/09
Shannon,
I'm not sure what to tell you :hug: . There are going to be bumps in the road. But keep your eyes on the prize and imagine how great it will be to have assembled the quilt top.Think about it for a few days and if you decide that you really don't want to do it, I can assemble. But give it some good thought. Don't let a moment of frustration keep you from doing something that will make you feel so good when it is finished.
:hug: Elizziebug, 9/8/09
It will be fabulous, don't worry. It will work out the way it is supposed to. You have the hardest job of this whole thing. :flower:
Angie
jewah1976, 9/8/09
Did I miss something? Of course, you'll square up or adjust blocks for size and space. I added extra border fabric to the heart so you could do just that. . . . and, if it turns out that you need it even bigger, I trust you to pick a fabric to add as needed.
Everything is good here.
I should have more to show tomorrow or wed and everything in the mail by the end of the week.Joyce
livethedream, 9/8/09
My speakers don't work so I have no clue about the video! :thud: I think it's t be expected that some modifications need to be made to square off some blocks (my LTC block needs help, as it is too small...) I agree with Angie. Shannon has the hardest job of all. I am 100000000% sure it will turn out to be fabulous!!! :<3:>
I was out all day when I should have been home sewing and now I'm off again...
Angie's blocks have arrived! (Angie, look for a PM from me as I have some
questions.)
Also, I bought the sashing fabric so we can't change our
minds.
:rolf:
Later,
S
shannon
I am sure they will have some kind of 'issues' but do what you need to with them...short of taking them apart and tye dying them, you can't really hurt my feelings. Angie
jewah1976, 9/11/09
Do what you need to with the metor block, I did like how it ended up anyway...just like with the phone block, I didn't know how to make it not so bulky. I have since gotten some tips on the internet and videos to know how to make it better...too late now. The other 2 I made too big on purpose so trim them as you need them (learned that with the metor block).
The words are looking good...they will work out. I like the way the gold looks on the background.
Angie
jewah1976, 9/12/09
Shannon, talk about a block not belonging in this quilt! You Walk in the Woods belongs in an award winning photorealistic landscape quilt! It's gorgeous, so intricate. I know how hard it is to figure out just the right placement of fabric on pictoral scenes - that's why I've never done it! :lol:
Was it Angela who said "I'm not worthy" ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^
I have to ask if you're going to hate me too much if I ask for a little more time to send in my blocks. I only got two out of the 7 trees done and the airplane, and still have to do La Push then the two signs too.....and I made a boo boo on one of the trees.....and we're all sick around here (you were right!) I'm heading off to bed now, and I don't know if I'll be able to stay up tomorrow night......I can't be counted on to finish when I say I will. :oops: I know I wont be able to work on it much tomorrow, we have a whole bunch of appointments, but I have Thursday all to myself for most of the day so could finish and send off Friday? Priority of course, would get to you Monday. Is that too late?
mama2cjmj, 9/15/09
I claim no credit for the block except for sewing it. Thank you for liking it!shannon
I'm embarrassed about how long it took me to decide whether or not to use the
pattern and to figure out how to use it without reducing it. I ended up just
using the center of the block pattern. Picking the fabrics was so tough for me
and I kept my fingers crossed the whole time that I'd be able to achieve the
effect I wanted. I was successful enough....
Well then, you'll have to share that pattern with me, because it is super cool!!!! :**:
I was re-vamping BD audio while sewing yesterday, and there's a line that I thought of when I saw your block and how much better it is than most of the others.....Jacob says to Carlisle when they are talking about chromosomal count...
"Can you dumb it down?" :rolf: :rolf: :rolf:
mama2cjmj, 9/16/09
I was beginning the agreed upon corrections to Angie's block. I didn't realize
all the issues, because I really was too frustrated to do so after seeing the
embroidery. I was ripping that out tonight when I realized all the piecing
errors. The grey part also has a loose edge, too.
I'm at the point where I'm
asking myself, "Are you freaking kidding me?" Could she not see these issues,
did she not realize them, or does she just not care?
I'm beginning to freak
a little about having Angie quilt this quilt.
I feel like a complete b*tch?
Shannon
Well, I'm sad that you get saddled with the frustrating job of fixing all these boo boos, but at least we have you to catch them and fix them. ^:)^ How do you get loose edges like that? It looks like it's turned over at the seam, not an exposed seam. Looked completely incorporated into the block.... I'm guessing she was too much in a hurry to get the blocks out to double check them.Well, as far as the quilting goes, her machine is programmable, and while it's not going to be the fantastic, unique, creative job that Vivian did, how bad can it get? It's still better than what I could do.
......I.
mama2cjmj, 9/17/09
No I didn't. I really messed up on the paper piecing. I am working on cat's forbidden fruit pattern today and am doing so much better than I did with those other two, i am sorry you got saddled with those 2 blocks. :wah:
I have a client that is a quilting teacher and she happened to come over when I was pulling my hair out with trying to learn it. She showed me some really basic tricks that seem to be making all the difference! I swear I will do better next time. :shy:
You can cuss me out if it will make you feel better.Ang
jewah1976, 9/19/09
Shannon,
First, I have to say thanks again for the nice compliments on my work. I was looking at the close-ups of them, and I missed a ton of match points :oops: .
I left an extra 1/4" all the way around each block. So, the Sun block is supposed to be 6 x 9, but it is 7 x 10, giving you a 1/4" seam allowance and 1/4" to work with if it isn't square. The rays of the sun on the top and left side are meant to be cut off a little in the seam allowance. It give the appearance of a continuous image, like there is something more off the page, instead of a sun just floating in mid-air. The soda cans will just have to float, though :lol: .
Three of the wolf paws are 4" and one is 3 7/8", and the proposal block is 7 x 7. There is a black border all the way around the heart. The blocks you sent me for the SM quilt were so [i]perfect[/i]; exactly the right size, etc., that I was worried about sending you something not-so-perfect. I debated between trimming them to their right size + seam allowance or leaving a little extra and decided to leave you some extra so you can fit them into the quilt without too much fuss. I worried about giving you extra work by leaving them for you to trim, but figured it would be more work for you if they were too small, or off the square. In any case, I hope they work.
Also, if you want to play around with the placement of the wolf paws, you could try Jared in the top right corner and Embry in the top of the right side sashing. I don't know if they'll look too clumped together as I listed them on the thread.
Thanks for all your hard work on this. I hope you enjoy the assembly portion. Your blocks are amazing. I can't wait to see what you come up with for the motorcycles. You always do a great job.
Oh, I checked out the Silver Linings site. I love her work. I love the 2007 flower mosaic quilt. That is absolutely amazing.
Have a nice day -- sorry your freezing. I used to freeze all the time too, but since I had Amy, my thermostat is messed up and I'm hot -- sweaty (which I never used to do) all the time. I used to hate the AC in summer and turn into a popsicle in winter, so I can totally relate.
:hug: E
lizziebug, 9/24/09
Thanks so much, Shannon. I think the Jacob's sun is my favorite of the blocks, but I really love how the stem and petals turned out on the roses.
I'll check out the blog and see what's there. I'm glad you posted -- it was on my LONG to-do list, so I'll check it out and see if I need to add anything.
I'm glad you're feeling excited about the blocks. How did Cat's Porsche turn out? I' curious to see the conversation hearts and Joyce's blocks too.
Thanks again,Elizabeth
lizziebug, 9/24/09
Shannon-I re did the phone block (still need to put the cord on) I like this one MUCH better. I figured out that the pattern had a spot in it where the numbers were out of order, I tried it 3 different ways and realized there was no way to do it in that order without there being a raw edge. So I re-numbered that part at it worked out fine. I have one small part where the seam is too short. I put some pellon on the back to keep it down. I hope that will work. I made the whole block 9.5 square so you could trim it down which ever direction you need it to be. I will add the cord and hopefully get it in the mail tomorrow.
Angie
jewah1976, 9/24/09
P.S.
I love telling you how good your blocks are and going on and on about
it because I can actually tell the truth.
shannon
:georgia: :rolf: :rolf: Replying to your other PM now
lizziebug, 9/24/09
The only block I've seen for Joyce is the heart and I'm not crazy about it.....
Not super crazy about it either. She's not super artistic, she doesn't have the best eye and her execution leaves a little to be desired.
I sure hope she's really mailed as she promised, but I haven't heard exactly.
She's been rather vague about it, hasn't she?
I'm just tired of sloppy work:
I should have warned you. I've seen everyone's work except for Angie & Mel's.
Angie remade the phone block. ugh... Her latest is supposed to be better, . . .
I haven't seen her work close up, but did see the picture you posted. It is possible to do nice, even hand work without it pulling so much.
Everyone has their own interpretations that I may not agree with (Why don't I ever have that problem with you and I?!), but I just can't abide by sloppiness.
I know exactly what you mean. If you're going to do it, then you'd better do it right, otherwise it is a waste of time.
Jerri's book block is good even though I don't get it? (I know I'm too literal.) The hearts are okay if not sloppy. Her note said that she was "sad" that she didn't get to do more.
Jerri Lynn is a sloppy worker. I've seen her quilt blocks (Charlie's block for the SM quilt was only 5 1/4" -- I really had to fudge in the seam allowances to get it to work); I hope her costume work isn't as sloppy. And as for not getting more blocks, she never spoke up.
Cat's blocks were great. I touched up a seam on the hand block because her tension looked off and I was afraid the seam would come apart. (you know when the two threads don't get nested together and you can see the bobbin really loose on the back...)
I know what you mean about the tension. Glad her blocks were good. She does nice work, but sometimes her fabric choices aren't my favorite.
I just wish everyone paid such close attention to detail and sewed by example. . . . Practice on your own time and in your own quilt.
I wonder if it is a matter of talent, but I don't think so. Even those with less talent can be neat if they choose to.
This may be a "charity quilt", but it's not like we're giving it to some homeless person that will be dragging it through the mud or getting sick on it. We're auctioning it off and are trying to get the most for it. I don't want to be embarrassed.
I know what you mean.
You and Iris have been great. I know I've been whiney. I'm sure you both think I'm too harsh and critical.
I'm very critical too. I don't judge you.
You were so great with the first quilt. I don't know how you did it!
:lol: I just had to let a lot of things go. I was so disappointed with the shoddy work of it. I couldn't very well go and remake everything though (I did a few things :roll: , which was really stupid), so I just had to let it go. Too bad we can't say, "if your work sucks, you're out." :rolf:
Most of the flaws in the SM quilt are all tucked away on the inside. Some of the blocks are unfortunate, but I think that the good overshadows the bad. It is a fun quilt. I'm sure that your excellent quilting skills will camouflage any huge errors, and it will be amazing when finished.:hug: E
lizziebug, 9/24/09
RE: THE MEADOW BLOCK
What the French Toast!?!
When I saw the picture of the meadow block I was a little confused as to why Sam was lying on his side. Is the bottom section of the meadow too narrow, then, or is the top half too wide?
What can I do to help? I saw that the calendar blocks weren't finished, just layered on each other. What in the world does she expect -- a magic transformation in the mail?Tell me what you need and I can help.
E
lizziebug, 9/29/09
Well, for one thing, the paw needs to go up and down, but that is pretty obvious, right? Since she's already used a hodgepodge of fabric, just continue to make it fit in. I'm sorry. Do you want to send me the calendar for assembly, or the meadow for re-arranging? Either, both? :hug: E
lizziebug, 9/29/09
Hi, the quilt is going to be beautiful. You are doing a wonderful job. I can see that you needed my block larger than what was originally told me and now of course can understand that you needed to make it bigger. All is well...looks good and I know this is a lot of stress and work for you but you are doing very well with it all. Take care. WB[/quote]
meredemer, 9/30/09
Shannon, I like the direction you're going with the red squares. And WTFT was up with Joyce's meadow?! I agree with E the only thing to be done was take off the bottom part, flip it with paw up, and add some more creams to it to make it the right size. Was the top part even the right width? I don't envy you the hard work ahead, but I know you of all people are going to take this jumble and tame it into a work of art! Thanks for all your work and perseverance! I.
mama2cjmj, 9/30/09
.......Shannon, the quilt is looking great.
E
lizziebug, 10/3/09
Sorry about the meadow. You can still send it to me if you want. Since it is patchy and uses different browns in it, what if you put Jacob and Jared in the meadow with Sam, put them in a sort-of V formation? Just a suggestion. I don't remember Joyce's blocks being so bad for the SM quilt, except the squashed truck. But then I confused Jean's and Joyce's blocks in my head anyway. Sorry you got such trash.
........Elizabeth
lizziebug, 10/3/09
......
I couldn't see stitches on the picture, though it could be because I was distracted by the fact that the "dangerous" meadow looks like it could be housing gnomes, fairies, and smurfs! :rolf: Looks like something I would have done for a kids quilt!......
I.
mama2cjmj, 10/4/09
I wrote that at the beginning when at that point only my block had been messed with....it wasn't clear at that point that you would continue the course. In fact I don't think it was clear to the others either. I thought it was just my block so I was trying to get over it and give you the benefit of the doubt but you continued your course. My block was small potatos and no big deal compared to the other stuff. I was under the impression that this quilt was like the first where the sizes were set and we sent them in at the size that had been decided. You didn't stick with that and my block was just the beginning but I didn't know that at the time and neither did anyone else. I wrote that in good faith and with appreciation knowing you had a hard job. I wrote that trying to just move forward and thinking that it was just my block...but my block was the beginning for you to do what you wanted to do with the quilt. When I wrote that I was sincere in those words and then day by day I could see that you were continuing the course. It wasn't just my block it was the whole quilt. You have amazing talent and so it turned out wonderful but you hurt others in the process. Once that happened then it became a realization that mine was just the first, not just the only thing you wanted to change. Sorry you feel the way you do but you are the one who did this, not me. I was saying the right Christian words to you when it was just my block and an isolated thing but then it spiraled out of control and you kept on your course. And if I remembered you wrote on the thread after that you would pm the others as needed but you forgot that too. So yes, those words did mean something at the time because I was trying to repair my own hurt by being forgiving and supportive of you.
meredemer, 10/22/09
So while we're all pointing the finger at me in blame, including myself, please remember that this is what I was hearing up until the end. I knew people were probably going to be unhappy with some of the things. I made an apology to the group before I even got the group letter or knew what they were expecting an apology for.
I made decisions along the way. I made decisions at the very end like remaking the Meadow, Mended Heart, and La Tua Cantante that were really questionable. I only wanted to make this quilt the best ever--NOT MINE--and to not be embarrassed by some of the blocks. My issues for sure, but I'm being honest.
My "friends" and co-coordinators never really stepped in to reign me in and were "supportive" until the very end....until I mailed the quilt away. Everyone then rallied arround each other and ganged up on me. They decried my actions and the quilt, but are still willing to use it.
It will be argued, if but not for me and all that I did........
I'm still hoping that some type of compromise can be worked out as helped by Events by Alice, Twilight Moms, and Alex's Lemonade Stand.
I don't hold out much hope.
My last wish is that my blocks will be returned to me.
If not, I hope to be conspicuous in my absence. I do not want to be associated in any way with the Twilight Quilters Coven or to be credited for any of my work.
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